So being yanked out of the sport at the top of your game that’s rough and It was just it was really a spiral down. I mean When I found out I had the disease in 99 it was so rare at that time they they ran tests for another year before they even confronted me and told me about it because they just wanted to be I guess sure because it was so rare at the time and I Remember, you know Being how I am. I just licked him. If I go did I do this? Did I do this to myself based on what I use what I’ve done, you know If I if I pissed in a bit, then I gotta sleep in it Did I did I do this and I’m like no I never said no, how do you know that? you know, how do you know and I remember him saying, you know There’s a famous basketball player that has the same disease and we know he didn’t do what you do And they wouldn’t tell me his name then but now I know what it is. It’s Lonzo morning Yeah, I was like, huh? I said, okay and then later on I started meeting families you had kids that Obviously didn’t do what I did So, you know, I I went into the hospital Well, I finally had disease and you know That was rough because all my contracts left they ran like the Black Plague you imagine your pain and athletes to look a certain way and There was a dark side to what they have to do. And now you have kidney failure, please Try to convince me. It’s not a correlation to what you’re doing. You’re lying. Of course it is No, it’s a rare kidney disease and you know, so it’s it’s FSGS Foucault’s glamorous girl neurosis. Sure sure. It is son So they all ran like the plague. So I just lost everything my mansion, my cars and I Was trying to explain it, you know to somebody at a time, you know So I I was fortunate I had a really really really really really really really really big house That people would come to and get lost. You know, if they went the wrong direction and I Was forced from that to have to go and stand with my mother-in-law in a Three-bedroom house that had one bathroom and it was me and my my my ex-wife now Me her and our two kids living in a room in a single bed all three of us laying in it and her sister and her Husband and their kids living in the other room and our mother live in another room So coming from that into there not to mention I had my dialysis machine that I was to Alice sighs a myself enosis. It was health like wow This is my life now, and I remember trying to explain to them because they’d be like why you depress on my Guess yeah, but you’re here flex I couldn’t get that. I might look at everything. I lost. I’m like, why would that matter? I’m like Okay, so if you’re if you’re this height and you fall it hurts a certain amount But if you’re away a pair and you fall is greater anybody know so I’m like, of course it is You’re just saying it because you weren’t up there. So anyway Fast forward I I get it You know a transplant Soon because I was I was going to get into dialysis every other day for three hours and at the at the time I was still around 260 pounds, so I was too heavy and The kidney disease was getting more aggressive So it got to the point where? They wanted me to start coming in every day for 12 hours and I just told them I said go F yourself I rather die you guys notice? you’re going to if you don’t and we’re not sure if you’re gonna make it even if you do, I’m like I Don’t have a life if I come in here and do that I might I just rather just I you know I just that’s not wise to live so I wasn’t thinking about my kids or anything at the time it’s just I was just the darkness I was in and So fortunate I got a kidney transplant and I thought that was great but The girl who was my donor it was a female She was very petite and while that I guess they had us out on a table They discovered that the main artery to her kidney was short because she’s tiny and I’m big so they were gonna put the kidney back in her and just stitched me back up and I guess one of the surgeons You know had a great idea We’re going to my main artery here and take it out and extend it and make you know the surgery work well in the process of doing that because I was Not not only what you know when I didn’t 260 pounds, but it’s just probably at that time maybe four percent So just muscular, you know, they they use these huge Clamps open everything up just like I guess a c-section so in doing so it kills the main artery here because I was clamped and it was You know pinched down for so long so they got that to work but I ended up having you know, a long story short nine surgeries in 11 weeks that I almost died from and I was just Son of us this blood-curdling pain I ever experienced at that time. I was literally on oxycodone Oxycodone which is once a injectable and whens a pill I was on a Demerol pump and I had an epidural, you know That was contacted to my spine. I was just just Hallucinating I was in la-la land literally I mean
they they took me from my hospital bed and put me into a mental institution on the other part of the hospital because I was just gone and Here we can back glass to what I was talking about drugs. So instead of helping me All they did was put me on more drugs. So we all know that when you’re on tremendous amount of painkillers what happens depression? Oh now we need to put your anti depression. Oh, that’s not working let’s switch you to this and that spiraled I end up having a bad effect from that and just losing it just were You know Weeks would go by and to me they’re just seconds and I would just hallucinate I remember talking to my friends and you know What do you think of my dog and I only know these things because he told me later and I’m asking him What do you think of my dog and he’s like what dog flex he goes my dog, and I’m pointing at my foot You know Even something more embarrassing. My niece was visiting me and I’m asking Oh underwear you got on And she didn’t tell me till years later not in when she told me I was sobbing that’s my niece She goes uncle Kenny. I knew that wasn’t you it I didn’t bother me and another time I I was so hungry cuz he starting because I have an all these tests on right and I Was starving plus I’m coming off eating eight thousand calories a day To be to sit down. So I’m dying. I’m angry. Imagine when you’re hungry I’m angry and I’m hallucinating and I’m I’m opening the cabinets and I’m getting everything I’m making a peanut butter and jelly sounds and I put it on and only when I bite though I realize it ain’t nothing air which just sends me in a more anger and in rage so they put me into a mental institution and you know through arguments with them and just Some of the things I saying in air which is people who have mental problems a normal person just don’t supposed to see that and don’t even pose to see how they respond to those people and I was arguing with him and We discovered that Two of the medications had an adverse effect that it said right on the label do not switch these two or mingle these two together or else it causes this and It goes no We don’t think your honor goes right there read it and as doctors some are no you’re wrong and they came back We think you’re onto something. I like I want out of here. No, no. Yeah, you have to stay I’m gonna know I went out of here it goes well Listen, you know you were suicidal before so, you know, you need help. I’m like no I beat that This is you guys fall You know, we’ll just stay one more day and let’s make sure so the next day I even got better so I did just put me back in the other side of the hospital so that was really hard and I Can’t really explain it, but I remember my room was really dark and and To me. I thought it was a nurse because nurse would come in and draw him blood at all times an hour and Still I wonder but this nurse came in and she just sat on my bed and she goes What are you upset about? You know what you feeling bad about yourself? Why are you pitying? You know, I’m like you mean look at me she and I Look at me she goes, but look at everything you’ve done you traveled a world you made money You won shows look at everything great you down I go, but I ain’t nothing now look at me You need to stop feeling sorry for yourself. What about your kids? What about your family? You think of them? Nah, Mike And I just remember waking up and I was just my My beginning to stop the flight and start a fight And when I got at a hospital, I I have to I had to go to see the doctors every three months you know was really critical and I Remember them because I’m Dyslexic. I’m very good with remembering words and what you say in and in how to Put that back to you If you say something I’m gonna lock in on your words and I’m gonna use them because that’s your language I know you all understand it that way and I remember the doctor say they’re like They’re Katyn said the way they were talk to me was always the same and always the same in and do you feel this does this happen they said now and then finally like after I Think my third visit so that’s three six nine months I’m like, why do you keep asking me these questions why you keep doing that? Well, we just need to know Why do you why do you keep doing that? It doesn’t matter. I’m like it does matter. Why why you keep asking me that? Well, it’s just a chance that you know, you might have a relapse. I’m like, what do you mean by that? It doesn’t matter. We don’t we need to talk about. Yeah, we do. This is my life. Why are you doing that? Well flex, the disease doesn’t go away. I’m like, what do you mean? I had a kidney transplant He goes, this is not like a heart transplant. Well, you get a new heart and you’re fine. He goes The disease ravished your kidney. It’s not in your kidney. It’s still in you. Okay, so, what are you saying? And you know he cut the conversation off and I got angry and I got a hostile I’m like no, you’re gonna effin tell me this is my life. He goes well You know, you’ll have to have another transplant like Oh, what do you mean by that he goes? Your disease will reverse this kidney I go so you’re saying I gotta go through this all over again Yeah, but don’t worry about it. You know you you’ve been through it your kidney transplant patient. You’ll be fine I go. No, no, like oh That’s like telling a woman, you know, you’re gonna give birth again, even though you almost died nine times Giving birth to your last host. You’ll probably are I’m good. I’m not gonna have any more kids So you tell me I gonna have to go he goes, we don’t know that that’s not gonna happen I go but I do know that it’s possible because I went through it and I went home and I was just in a state of depressive like man. I thought I was done you tell me I Think I laid in bed for maybe three days Allowing Kenny to just beat my ass, you know, like the old days you get it. Yeah, and I Just I got tired and angry just with just a pity crap. I said, you know what? I’m okay. If this is gonna happen, it’s gonna have to come and get me I’m gonna get up I’m gonna go live my life. I’m gonna get back in shape When it knocks on a door, I’m not answer and I’m out somewhere. It’s gonna have to come and find me I’m not gonna just sit here and let this just come and just happen like hey, how you doing? Come on in my cuz I’m a fight



  • Celluler Sweller

    Lots of respect

  • Mike Valdez

    For years Flex was know as an asshole to most who were around him in Gold's Venice Beach back in his training days

  • Greg Harris

    Competitive bodybuilding has serious health risks including death. Google it

  • CaliBuilt 661

    He used synthol as well. I like flex but he used everything he could to get where he is. Js

  • Don Taylor

    What a cry baby. No wonder his wife left. Fame comes and goes. No matter how far i fall i get up the same.

  • mikead24


  • Patsy Johnson

    Sound like they was trying to kill him

  • John Timms


  • emilio perez

    say no to steroids and yes to natural bodybuilding u don't have to be super huge just have a little bit of everything and look good

  • Fluke

    Anyone who changes their name to Flex has to be arrogant lol

  • Randy benton

    Flex was a very arrogant dude when he was in the game. You can’t treat people badly just because you have genetics that respond well to steroids! He was brought down and he still feels sorry for himself. The world doesn’t revolve around you anymore!

  • David Sosnak

    He is talking so much bs

  • oncall21

    Why did you need the really, really, really, really ,…… big mansion and cars (plural)? Your health is your wealth. Not the other way around. That aside your health and depression are things that I have experienced that I feel so much for you. I'm glad you overcame your self pity and found a way of gratitude to a second chance of choices. I wouldn't wish it on anyone and I wish you the best. Unless (like yourself) you have been through it no one truly can understand what it's like.

  • Mimon Barakacka

    if you start to make good money…there are some rules …1. go stingy 2. stay stingy 3. get stingyer !!!!!
    cause the good times never stays forever !

  • Alan B

    Which is worse? Losing high status or always having low status? That depends on who you are. We always feel what happens to us more intensely.

  • Roberto Acosta

    Mourning didn’t do steroids? Ok.

  • Jackson Otieno

    Strong Mr.flex you are an inspiration to many including me because not everyone could understand what it feels like to loose & start all over again..
    #hold on tight champ..

  • Chris Hayhurst

    still arrogant as a m.f….some things just dont change

  • George J Gilles.:

    Your still a champ.

  • Luis Trevas

    Cresceram-lhe as orelhas o os cotovelos , todo e resto foi-se com o tempo e os químicos . Triste sina a de muitos profissionais . Melhor tivessem tido um emprego decente ou normal . O desejo de fama normalmente fala mais alto .

  • adh0522

    PEDS have consequences

  • NuevaVida NuevaVida

    Saw him numerous times in southern cal gyms and he was a real mother fucker, everyone hated him.

  • William Haddock

    Poor guy

  • Iron Man

    Steroid use ALWAYS comes at a price. Remember this kids. Abuse them and they will come and bite you on your arse further down the line. Dont be a dick and think taking drugs to gain an inch on your arm is gonna be worth the price of organ failure. If you do think its worth the price, then you need mental help.

  • Awakened Won

    Find the Lord or you will lose your soul in hellfire. Win the world, lose your soul. 1 Timothy 4:8 For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come.

  • Diego Garcia

    Sounds like the nurse who talked to him is the lady or entity that a lot of people meet when they do DMT which is the drug that is compared to the feeling of when you die or have near death experiences.

  • John Karra

    Life humbles

  • matricha69

    French subtiles please

  • MEL

    Flex wheeler didnt lose everthing, he still had himself, the most important thing!

  • Matt E

    Met at the Olympia when I was 16 and he just ignored me and my friends when asking for an autograph. Real jerk but wouldn’t wish kidney disease on anyone. I’m glad your life perspective has changed as the sound of other comments reconfirmed my earlier encounter with him.

  • Shafer Hart

    10:42 that's doctors for ya. The biggest con artists on Earth.

  • Stuart Bennett

    Should do a film on him spend decent money and make it a good production

  • Aitwadrim Abdelah


  • Rufus DirtyBread

    Suurree , steroids doesn't effects you. Got it.

  • tshepp89

    He's still jacked as hell!

  • Suburban Conan

    He should've stuck with martial arts…..with the boom of the UFC etc who knows where he could've ended up…

  • davidsirmons

    This is eye-opening really. I always thought it was related to his creatine and other chem use. I'm actually oddly relieved that it was NOT related to his bodybuilding. They can print 3d functional kidneys and livers today. All hope is not lost, Flex. I promise.

  • Dud 2000

    Glad to see he is doing well, but steroids and other muscle related drugs such as synthol, dieuretics, HCG, and HGH are the main cause. Where are all the commercials and ads to show the great effects of using supplements and having great "genetics."

  • Kevin Concepción


  • Mike Hahessy

    Mad story.much respect

  • Max

    Dear Flex.
    The only mountains that we dont climb are the ones we chose not too.
    You know what has to be done.

  • robert philpott

    This guy is great.

  • sapper made

    This is why I always recommend people get disability insurance. Had he gotten that he would have had at least some loot coming in after he was sick.

  • Azary Tamarov

    Flex is real

  • Max Maximus Z

    Many people confirn even Felx himself that many times he was working out in clothes for night out after training he get drugs and have a party. Plus gear and disaster happens. Not trying to be a hater but recreational drugs plus steroids gh and insulin its not best scenario.

  • The 570 Experience

    My wife left too…….I made her pull one plow and…..bam GONE….unreal

  • Dexter Lacroy

    Transplants are a fortune in U.S, not all insurance covers it and even if so the insurance is costly beyond many people's income level. In Sweden it's tax funded. Damn our commie socialism for enabling poor people to get transplants and survive!

  • Mark Goldberg

    never forget when i meet flex in LA and in NY IN 1998 he is amaiznggggggggggggggg

  • Mustafa Sutarwala

    When you're down, a bitch leaves you and only your mother is there.
    This generation is all about money.


    Karma's a bitch ain't it syntholio? Enjoy your failure.

  • The End of Madness

    Great interviewer

  • 4subvoid4

    I feel sorry for Flex, I'm glad he has recovered. What a story.

  • TY GY

    Hes a legend i swear. He had a beach bod that was different than ronnies, a true legend.

  • NWforager

    Kidney issues is a big and growing problem with folks of color . Salt is 1 of the many things we need to cut out despite what what food industry says . I hear even folks i admire like Rogan pusing more Salt . but just like sunscreen its Not for everyone. Dark skin folks in the US usually need More Sun . Not Less, and Less Salt for our kidneys

  • aboutblank

    Flex rules !

  • Albert Albert

    He described it so well it was like watching it happening. Good thing he is sharing it to educate the population because steroids, especially in large dosage do have side effects.

  • Chris Austria

    Wow he went through hell and back. I wish him well.

  • Kowlin Fisher

    God is real when you cours God that's what happens you could go hi some day you come to be in the floor ur die but if you come to to God hi will put you even bigger My Help Comes from the Lord bigger than Godbless seek the Lord his coming SOON+

  • John Lain

    The drugs caused his problems. He can sugar coat it here all he wants, but I'm not buying it. He's lucky he didn't have a massive heart attack and die from the amounts he was taking, and he obviously used a lot. He was a great bodybuilder, no doubt, but come on take some responsibility. You can't abuse drugs like that for years and not expect consequences from doing that. The "genetic, it was going to happen eventually" phrase is to down play it.

  • Matt Miles


  • David M

    Why didn't he just invest in a 403b or index fund? Can't feel sorry for him at all.

  • Stu Parky

    I never knew flex went through all this?! Where was the bodybuilding family when he needed them after all he'd done? Shocked!

  • Adit Bhiday

    Another idiotic video – Why do you have to talk or explain your own decisions about what you did instead of talking about the main subject – Flex Wheeler. Talk about Flex's motivations, his methods and what he achieved not the bullshit that you were dealing with when you gave your "opinion" on his shape. You sure know how to shit on a great subject.

  • philaman1972

    I did not know Flex was ill. I remember seeing him on "Muscle & Fitness" back in the day.

  • Kris Simon

    I'm no doctor but taking shit load of steroids and eating 300-500 grams of protein a day must be hard on the organs even for a healthy person.

  • Rich Bunnell

    Saw him guest pose years ago in CT. Mike Katz was the promoter. Flex came out onstage in an Indian costume that only exposed his arms. He hit a few poses, then walked offstage. Mike Katz gets on the mic and starts yelling “Come back out Flex, let’s go. C’mon Flex.” Mike was clearly upset.

  • Victor Suciu

    flex is a legend

  • MistaMacCapone

    Kidney disease is rough my wife has it and its not easy to deal with…

  • M D

    I never knew this happened to him. I love you flex, I remember you had lats so big you could fly……

  • Sweat Buddy

    A fellow brother Mason /G 💪

  • oceanriccard

    Thank you Sir. Inspiring.

  • david barrington

    I met Flex Wheeler at the 1994 Mr. Olympia. He was recovering from a car wreck, but he was still displaying a super human body at that time. I held a nice conversation with him, and he took a picture with me and another friend. He was very nice.

  • Robert Taylor

    WOW! You just never know. You go from bodybuilding god to living in your moms home and ill. It is a lesson to all to enjoy the time you have and always be thankful.

  • reign6of6e6terror

    BB today is a sad and tragic "sport"

  • Dayga

    Arrogant, vain bastard gambled with the devil… and th devil never loses. Live and learn, motherfucker!

  • KingsWorld2015

    IMHO – the bodybuilder from the 90s who looked after himself, invested his money wisely and now is doing well is: Dorian Yates, – not hating but don't be big headed, be humble and appreciate people around you. You don't take anything with you…


    Respect to London Real & Flex. That damn wife pissed me the fuck off. Just wrong smh I wouldn't ever take her ass back. It makes you deeply like this man damn near died. You're there for the material gratification??? God is going to whip her ass like he did Satan. That's messed up. He a winner by default. American Doctors are liars and ultimately greedy damn. Smh make me trust women less that's fucking tough.

  • Pleroma

    What these guys do to their bodies to win a competition just isnt worth it. So un natural what they do to their bodies


    Life is tough but we all gotta be tougher, fight till you dont breathe anymore only death can stop us 💯📿

  • saintquinn007

    This guy was always a total deushbag….(NOTHING off roids…)…What up with the faggy Michael Jackson voice?(make he sound edumikated?)… What's this dummy's motive for whining here….
    A GoFundMe (like Robby)? This deushbag scumbag was threatening to attack Dave Palumbo at an expo 2 years ago during his inane "comeback" because Dave reported on his channel that some people thought his arms looked strange and had synthol in them….

  • Casey Richards

    The nurse woke him up ! And we all need someone like the nurse for us to realize

  • Archer Cillian

    This is THE Flex Wheeler. Amazing story he shared.

  • Angelina Jolie

    who care..fuck you negro

  • Lion Platinum, LLC

    This was SUPER POWERFUL!!

  • Michiel De Neve

    This guy deserved the title even more now. Respect, Flex.

  • Dennis Damennis

    Such a good dude sorry to hear this happened to him

  • Nicholas Thompson

    Damn this is deep

  • Angelo Melville

    10 thumbs up! So Pro!

  • Jose Sanchez


  • Csaba Gemziczky

    Nice red socks.

  • Carl Ranger

    This was heavy.

  • nosheep lion

    Thank god, ah interviewer who lets the people speak

  • mauro oddo

    All these guys have to tell only sad stories. Steroids don't change life….it is only an addiction that hides problems…..most of them die most not but look at that stories came from……

  • Craig gadson

    Wow i never knew he went through this im on dialysis now waiting to get on the transplant list!! Great video flex

  • CaneFu

    Of course Wheeler's kidney failure is due to many years of massive steroid use.

  • Jeffrey

    The disease is you. The doctor figured you'd go back to performance drugs.

  • Swamp Fox

    I met this man in St. Peter’s mo. He came there for a seminar. He was such a down to earth guy. God bless Flex. You the man. 💪🙏

  • SunGod Asiatic

    Damn some parts of this was hard to listen to. God bless you Flex.

  • roy ratcliff

    He's a good guy. If you don't have your health and family you have nothing. You can stick material things .

  • Jon Laver

    Excellent interview!…..big respect to wheeler for sharing!

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