CORONAVIRUS – Stay fit at home during COVID-19 || Interview with Geoff Palmer

CORONAVIRUS – Stay fit at home during COVID-19 || Interview with Geoff Palmer


(upbeat music) – Hello everybody, and
a very good day to you. And I just wanted to
let you know that today I’m interviewing none other
than the amazing Geoff Palmer, my wonderful, vegan,
super-mega body-builder friend who’s basically in the USA and we connected through
all sorts of mutual friends in the health and wellness and fitness and vegan fitness field. Geoff, thank you so much for joining me, it’s an absolute pleasure
to have you here. – And thank you for having me on. It’s a pleasure. – Oh it’s so lovely of you. One of the reasons I
wanted to connect with you at this time, Geoff, is
because lots of countries are imposing curfews at the moment so what we’re going to be covering today if that’s okay with you is your best tips of advice for what we can do to
stay fit and well at home. Obviously exercise is
such a massively important part of staying well in general but also for resilience when faced with really kind of virulent
viruses like the current Coronavirus or COVID-19
as it’s also known. So before we get into that though, can I just possibly ask you a little bit about your background Geoff? Can you sort of set the scene for us and tell you what it is, tell us what it is that you do. – Sure, my name is Geoff Palmer and I own a plant-based
fitness nutrition company called Clean Machine. I believe in keeping this
amazing body that we’re given as clean and as healthy as possible. So it’s a combination of finding the best that nature has to offer
as far as nutrition and things that’ll help
with performance, too. I think a lot of athletes these days are actually converting
to a plant-based diet because they see big improvements
in their performance too. Athletes across the spectrum, including like what I did which was body building,
I’m a natural body building and natural physique for those
of you who don’t understand, I’m not the steroid type of athlete that is using drugs. We are completely clean and drug free. And we sponsor athletes,
as a matter of fact, we did the very first vegan body
building championship in the world so 100% natural, 100% vegan body building championship. – Well this is one of the reasons why I thought it was so important to bring you into the frame
with this discussion because clearly something that came out with my discussion with Dr. Frank Sabatino a couple of days ago, is that, and I’m totally
on board with this as well. And all my research points to the fact that the way that we will essentially shore up our immune systems
to be more resilient to this virus is by transitioning
to a plant-based diet if we are not already eating a whole food plant-based vegan diet. So it’s incredibly important. And what I think is so fantastic is that there have been, obviously prior to the
virus, there have been films like the Gamer Changers showing how so many athletes as you
say are transitioning to a plant-based diet. So what’s your perspective, Geoff about, before we get into some of the exercise, side of things, what’s
your perspective about the reasons why athletes
are transitioning. Why is it that a plant-based diet is just working so well for people who are really at the peak
levels of athletic performance much like yourself. I mean you’re not a small guy. I have to say, when we met
just recently in Florida I was just blown away by your physique, you look amazing. So tell me a little about why are plants so good for us? For all fitness
considerations and aspects. – And for the first thing, I think the big question is is
where do you get your protein and we now understand that
all essential amino acids are made by plants. Bacteria made a few but
we’re not sitting down to a bowl of bacteria for
breakfast in the morning. So all the plants are where all the humans and all animals
source their protein needs. That’s not the question. More is, what are all
of the other nutrients? All your micronutrients. Your polyphenols, your antioxidants, these things help support recovery. And remember, exercise, physical fitness is about your body’s ability to adapt to whatever you stress. When you work out you
are stressing the body and it adapts by adding more muscle so it can handle that
stress better next time. Well that’s exactly what these plants do. There are living plants out there called adaptogens. Which actually help
improve our body respond or adapt to the changes. Whether that is running or
biking or lifting weights these are stresses that we put on the body and we need to adapt and
if we can recover faster we can perform sooner and perform better because of better recovery. – Really interesting you should mention adaptogens there, Geoff, in fact, a couple of days ago I
put out a little ebook just brief but I did
share on essential oils, particularly antiviral essential oils how to use them, how to
protect ourselves using them and my next task is to write an ebook on adaptogentic herbs, herbs in
general that are antiviral, and also adaptogenic herbs. The concept of adaptogens
is so, so interesting. That’s probably a topic for another day. So what I want to do is obviously this is going to be going out to not just to your fans and followers and so on, but also to all of our members and all of my followers within the Complementary Medical Association. For those viewers who don’t know what The CMA is, we’re
actually the world’s largest professional membership association for highly qualified
complementary medical, integrative medical and
natural health practitioners. Training schools, colleges
and also the companies that are producing the most amazing high level quality products and services into and supplying them into
the natural health field. Now the reason that I mentioned that is because within The CMA, we have an absolute commitment to only getting evidence
information out there. So that’s the reason I
wanted to come to you as one of the world’s leading experts in physical fitness and
talk to you about Geoff what should we do if I
mean certainly in the UK we don’t have a curfew at the moment but rumblings are that
there may be something but where we could be
looking at like that. And I know certainly in
many other countries, there are where people are
absolutely stuck in doors and told you must not come outside. So Geoff could you
please plank through the, the floor open to you,
would you just please tell us what we should be doing. – So one, for those
people that are advanced and trained at a very high level, this is an opportunity. If you’ve been training hard
for a long period of time, to actually take a little bit of a break. So it’s not a bad a idea. Allowing your body to fully recover. This is actually something that high performance athletes do as well. Take some periods of
break to allow their body to fully recover all the way
down to the cellular level. So it’s not a bad thing to take a break. But what you want to do is
still keep that blood flow going keep the endorphins
going, it elevates mood. It keeps you positive. It helps with brain function. Everything functions better when we move. So some simple things we
can do are floor exercises like pushups, sit-ups, planks. Squats, just squatting
even without weights, you do that enough times
and you will be sore. I guarantee it. – Yes. – And then things like
chair dips or chair pushups. If you’re female or if you’re older. And basic pushups are
a little hard for you, you can improvise with different things. Different ways of approaching it for every level of fitness. For guys, it’s a little
tricks, that you can do. You can take water jugs. You can take a one gallon water jug, fill it up, and those become weights. Now you have weights. You can fill it to
whatever your comfort level if you’re a female or older and need to use less weights. You can go outside and fill up rocks or dirt into plastic bags and use them like kettle bells. So again you can create your own weights. You can use books off the bookshelf. Especially bigger ones that
have a little more weight to it. And if you’re even very strong you can fill up a garbage can of water, about part of the way
and then you can use that to do squats and dead lifts with. So there are many ways that you can just improvise very close. Obviously you can go online and purchase some exercise equipment, bands are great. You can use bands anywhere. And you can hit just
about every single motion in the body with bands. Whether that’s advanced bands, or Bowflex style equipment that uses band technology all the way down to Pilates equipment. Or even if you just have a
simple bungee cord somewhere, maybe in the back of your
car or in the garage, you can use bungee cords. Any type of tension. Now one secret to try a
little to improve that is to slow down the motion greatly. You do a three count, like a one, two, three count up and a one, two, three count down. And on the top, when you stop you squeeze, and squeeze, you hold that
squeeze, that contraction you’re actually really creating
a lot of forced contraction and this can give you a great workout even with lighter weights. Or lighter stress. Wow that’s so interesting, thank you. Because I was thinking,
well I’m sure that you know, what we will be talking about are things that you know, that the
ordinary person can do. But I actually, I had no idea
that even for fit people, even for potential body builders, I guess, you know, that they can actually use these types of approaches
so that’s so interesting. The other thing I wanted to just throw to the mix there
Geoff is I remember reading Arnold Schwarzenegger’s statement about putting your mind your muscle. I’m not going to try and do his accent. I’ll leave that to him. But does that actually make a difference? I mean I know that, you know, there have been experiments
about visualization of exercise producing
astounding muscle growth. Even without any exercise,
and I will dig out the study to that and I’ll put it in the notes underneath this video. Because it makes incredibly
interesting reading. But to your mind, if you, you know, visualize exercise and
visualize muscle growing and as Arnie says, putting
your mind into your muscle, does that really make a difference? What’s your experience with that? – Yes, absolutely. So there’s a thing called Tut, TUT. It stands for time under tension. So you can actually just go up to wall, a wall of your home and push against it. But you push against it, with enough time and enough tension you can actually really stress the muscle. You can stress the
muscle in different ways because you can turn and
push it from the side. You can do it from front. You can push it from the back so there’s lots of ways you can push it. You can push with your legs. There’s lots ways. By holding that contraction or holding that push for a longer time, time under tension, you can actually deliver more force and more contraction, more stimulation to the muscle and you can actually get
a pretty good workout. – This is so interesting because I’m actually looking around and you’re inspiring me. So I’m looking around thinking, now there’s a door there, so if held so if I put my hands up and I held the top of the door and pulled down. I’m not gonna be able to do a chin-up because I can’t do them anyway, but if I push down, that would put a lot of pressure on here and the whole sort of chain down the back. And if I engaged my core
then that would help. I was thinking wall sits as well. I was thinking about the door frame, pushing against a door frame. And actually I was also
thinking about you know, actually basic isometric exercise. So pushing, pushing, and pulling. And all of those. So, really there’s no
end to what we can do to actually keep ourselves
in really, really good shape. However, so that’s all
resistance exercise. – Yes. What are your thoughts about I suppose more aerobic stuff. Is that important should
we be looking at that at the moment? And if you live in a flat or an apartment, jogging on the spot probably
isn’t going to endear you to the people living downstairs. I know I’ve got that problem with a very noise sensitive
downstairs neighbor. So what are your thoughts
about that Geoff? – Yeah, so there’s lots of ways. Obviously just by increasing the tempo or the speed at which you do
reps can give you a cardio type exercise so you can
actually do a combination of resistance exercise,
like doing the water bottles except just doing them
higher amount of reps and that can get your cardio rate up. – [Jayney] Mhmm. – Yeah obviously like running in place or doing jumping jacks or doing squats very quickly obviously always do them safely. Know your level of fitness and work well with inside of it. But remember, like really intense endurance or really intense heavy weight training, both actually lower the
immune system temporarily. – [Jayney] Mm. True. – So overall exercise long term is awesome for your immune system. But part of it is that once you exercise, really intensely for a longer period of time, like endurance or like
very heavy training. What you’re doing is building
up a lot of waste materials and then of course our immune system has to try to eliminate that. So keep your workouts within reason. You wanna get yourself into cardio mode but you don’t want to push it too much where you’re actually
lowering your immune system. ‘Cause it’s not good timing. – That is such important
information, Geoff. Thank you. I can’t thank you enough for saying that because it is something
that’s often overlooked. You do see, don’t you, with
real endurance athletes that they can really suffer
with their immune systems. – [Geoff] Yeah.
– And so yeah it’s a hugely important point there. And the other side of exercise, so I see exercise as being
always like a sort of a three pronged stool. So resistance, aero. But (mumbles) I’ve always liked to think about mindful exercise.
– [Geoff] Mhmm. – Like Pilates, a lot of
people don’t consider Pilates to be a mindful exercise. I think it is because you’ve got to really put your mind into engaging that core and pulling up and really you know you’ve gotta think
about what you’re doing. Or otherwise you’re just
doing sit-ups you know. That is not Pilates. As we know. But what about anything. Do you personally do anything like Yoga, or stretching or Tai Chi or Qigong or anything like that, Geoff? – Yeah, and some of my favorites are a little bit more. ‘Cause I like the fitness level of say Ashtanga Yoga. Or what they call Power Yoga. – Yeah. – Which is using a little
bit more strength moves and holding them in position. Also important using your breath work to help facilitate that. Because oxygen getting to those muscles is very important too. Yeah but there’s so much
from yoga and Pilates to using bands, using
basic calisthenic workouts, you can go online. You can go to YouTube,
or Gaia, the Gaia channel has some great yoga and Pilates workouts that you can do right from home. Just put ’em on and they will teach you
how to do all the movement. So great time to do that at home. You can also order equipment from online. From Amazon or other things. Whether that’s just bands or kettle bells or coupled dumbbells, you can do almost every exercise with a pair of dumbbells that’s the right weight for you. But you’ve got jump rope,
you’ve got ab wheels, you’ve got rowing machines, you’ve got treadmills. These are all available
if you have the money to purchase them. And then don’t forget about the fun stuff. If you got a trampoline in the backyard, now’s a good time to dust
it off and get out there. And do some
– [Jayney] Very true. – Or a pogo stick or
just taking a tennis ball and whacking it against
the wall by yourself if you’re alone or with a partner. Just incorporate a little
bit of fun and movement in some of these ways. There’s lots of ways to get active. – Yes, absolutely. I’ve got a group of friends
and we’re going to be doing online belly dance classes which really you know you do break a
sweat doing belly dancing so, yeah, you know, you’re quite right, there’s no end to what you can do, once you put your mind to it and you start thinking really positively, really you know you can just
get really creative can’t you. So thank you for that. Geoff, I don’t want to
keep you much longer because I want to make these interviews kind of like snackables so that people can you know sort of
absorb them quite quickly and then go and action them. So we’re gonna finish,
but before we do so, I just wanted to talk to you
about something very briefly. Now, obviously just kind
of veering back to your lovely green products, particularly your green powders. I think it’s clean green protein? Is that, I know that’s
your protein powder, and I think you’ve actually got a, is it clean greens? You see, the reason I’m asking you Geoff is because I have to say, I’ve been in supermarkets here in the UK and I’m finding it
really, really difficult to get fresh greens at the moment and I know there will be deliveries but you know maybe it’s just
the time that I’ve been there and I’ve just been really unlucky and I’ve been trying to shop
for other people as well. And so it suddenly dawned on me. Oh yes, I should actually just put in powdered greens in to my smoothies rather than my big bunches
of kale and spinach and you know all the leaves. Would you say that’s a good strategy for maintaining sort of your
intake of green leafies? Does that work? – Yeah especially I was in
Whole Foods the other day and the greens section
was completely empty. There wasn’t a single leaf of green in the entire Whole Foods. And you know that can be a
challenge for a lot of people. Especially in food scarcity that we’re dealing with right now. So having something,
one, that is shelf stable is not going to spoil on you. That is easy and can give
you that boost, right away. Yeah I would doubt most
of the plant proteins on the market are made
from isolated proteins. So you’re just basically
getting the protein and not all the good stuff. All the fiber. All the micronutrients. All the antioxidants and polyphenols. So I really wanted a whole
food source of protein, allow athletes to get
the protein they need but also the omega 3’s that are needed for muscle and joint health, anti-inflammation. But also that fiber. And so Lentein is an amazing plant. You look it up online if you
haven’t already heard about it. It’s one of the very
first plants ever shown to have bioactive B12,
especially important for vegans and vegetarians out there. But it’s higher nutrient density than kale, spinach, spirulina, most of the top greens of the world. It’s higher in essential
amino acids in branch chains, we need for recovery and repair. And one scoop is 50% of
your omega 3’s as well. All natural and occurring
in their whole food state. All it is is just powder. Amazing product. And you know when I think about it, people talk about okay, COVID,
it’s mostly attacking people with immunodeficient problems. Compromised immune systems, either by people who are sick or injured or by people who are elderly. Both usually having
depressed immune systems. And you know and you’re like, okay, about 70 to 80% of our immune system springs from our gut. That’s our microbiome. And what does our microbiome feed on? Fiber! Well there you have it. And the only thing that is found in fiber comes from is plants. So having a good source of fiber and a good source of
anti-inflammatory omega 3’s plus all those antioxidants
and vita nutrients, can be amazing for
boosting the immune system. And that is the proper way. ‘Cause look, every time you
work out with intensity, remember you’re lowering the
immune system a little bit. So you want that recovery. You want all those nutrients present. It’s not just about protein. – Absolutely. Yes, thank you, Geoff. What I’d like to do is, afterwards I’ll grab your URL, I’ll put it in the notes underneath, so that people can actually contact you. And I just want to say
a huge thank you, Geoff. You’ve been absolutely amazing, as I knew you would be. Incredibly helpful information and I just think, I for one, I feel completely inspired
by what you just said. I’m just about to go and
get my bands out now. And do some, you know, just get
those muscles flexing, okay. So thank you very much
and I’ll talk to you soon. All the very best. – Thank you, you too, thank you for that. – [Janey] Take care. (upbeat music)

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  • Jayney Goddard

    Please let us know which of Geoff’s wonderful suggestions you are going to be trying during this challenging period. What types of exercise do you prefer normally, and what will you be doing during the coronavirus crisis?

  • Jayney Goddard

    Which of Geoff’s many helpful suggestions will you be trying during this coronavirus/COVID-19 crisis? Do let us know in the comments below. Stay well, happy and healthy XX

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